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		<title>Comment on What, if anything, is the Moral of the 2005 Texans&#8217; Story? by Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What, if anything, is the Moral of the 2005 Texans&#39; Story &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What, if anything, is the Moral of the 2005 Texans&#39; Story &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post by Greg Trippiedi  Possible Related [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The 2002 Quarterback Class was Better than you Think by What, if anything, is the Moral of the 2005 Texans&#8217; Story? &#171; LiveBall Sports</title>
		<link>http://liveballsports.com/2010/02/17/the-2002-quarterback-class-was-better-than-you-think/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>What, if anything, is the Moral of the 2005 Texans&#8217; Story? &#171; LiveBall Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from overdrafting Carr at first overall in the 2002 draft (my analysis on the class can be found here).  Justice&#8217;s sharp criticism of the work done by Charley Casserly and staff between the Carr [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Handful of Heisman Voters Screw Up, Ingram Wins Honor by dan -get sponsored man- hersch</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan -get sponsored man- hersch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe that Ingram beat out Toby Gerhart in the voting totals! I mean, who even likes the guy?</description>
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		<title>Comment on LiveBall Sports Mock Draft #1 by Mike J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tampa would NOT pass up Suh for anyone. Take it to the bank.</description>
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		<title>Comment on College Football Over/Under: Delaware by monsterphotoiso</title>
		<link>http://liveballsports.com/2009/09/04/college-football-overunder-delaware/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>monsterphotoiso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for use my work.</description>
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		<title>Comment on LiveBall Sports Mock Draft #1 by Lions willing to trade No. 2 pick (AP) &#124; Sports Headlines Today</title>
		<link>http://liveballsports.com/2010/02/25/liveball-sports-mock-draft-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Lions willing to trade No. 2 pick (AP) &#124; Sports Headlines Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LiveBall Sports Mock Draft #1 « LiveBall Sports    Share this story: [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Combine-Week Look at NFL Teams who Could Surprise in 2010 by A Combine-Week Look at NFL Teams who Could Surprise in 2010 &#8230; &#124; Seattle Seahawks NFL Announcer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Combine-Week Look at NFL Teams who Could Surprise in 2010 &#8230; &#124; Seattle Seahawks NFL Announcer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See the original post: A Combine-Week Look at NFL Teams who Could Surprise in 2010 &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The relative value of a Middle Infielder in top-level Baseball by Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The relative value of a Middle Infielder in top-level Baseball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The relative value of a Middle Infielder in top-level Baseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The relative value of a Middle Infielder in top-level Baseball by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could offer up an additional premise for the nature of middle infield salaries.  The value of these players is almost entirely dependent on the fact that they play shortstop of second base and the lower positional baseline that comes with playing there.  For high value first basemen, or corner outfielders, particularly in the AL, the value will remain even if they have to move positions (whether due to a change in defensive skills, or a minor league prospect coming up who needs room to be made).  For a middle infielder, there is much higher variability in their potential wins added to the team.  This has been most evidenced by a lot of the &#039;slugger&#039; type middle infielders who have larger body types and eventually become unable to play any middle infield position without costing their team a large amount of runs.   Even if the player is currently playing a competent shortstop, there is a stronger likelihood that physical skills might decline and seriously hurt the defensive value of the player, necessitating a move away from the middle infield and destroying the value. 

Another likely outcome is the arrival of prospects to the majors who also derive their value from playing those positions.  While organizations like to think they have a pretty accurate timeline when good minor leaguers will hit the majors, it is far from being completely accurate and unexpected and faster arrivals occur.  If a shortstop was ready to be promoted on a team with a mid-tier shortstop, it would be almost impossible to get value from both of these players.  However, for corner outfielders and infielders it is much easier to move players around and get value out of everyone.  

Remember that the expected value is a weighted average of all probabilities of expected returns.  Defensive decline and prospect congestion are both outcomes that hurt non-elite middle infielders more than corner outfielders and infielders, and their value is subsequently hurt.  Those who are paid &#039;elite&#039; salaries are those who would still be valuable if moved away from their position, meaning that the aforementioned outcomes are not nearly as hurtful to their value.

Finally, the correlation of .21 just shows me that 21% of wins are explained by the middle infielders, which is more than their share of at bats and defensive contribution.  This would be evidence that they are more important than their individual contributions, but you also have to consider some dependence as teams with great shortstops have frequently addressed a lot of other needs first.  The starting middle infielders probably make up about 20% of offensive opportunities and I&#039;ll assume a 10% contribution to runs prevented.  This would cause one to expect a 15% r^2 value (.5 * .2 + .5 * .1 ) if the variables were independent.  Since this is not the case, one could say that the wins added are pretty proportional to what you would expect from 2 starting position players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could offer up an additional premise for the nature of middle infield salaries.  The value of these players is almost entirely dependent on the fact that they play shortstop of second base and the lower positional baseline that comes with playing there.  For high value first basemen, or corner outfielders, particularly in the AL, the value will remain even if they have to move positions (whether due to a change in defensive skills, or a minor league prospect coming up who needs room to be made).  For a middle infielder, there is much higher variability in their potential wins added to the team.  This has been most evidenced by a lot of the &#8217;slugger&#8217; type middle infielders who have larger body types and eventually become unable to play any middle infield position without costing their team a large amount of runs.   Even if the player is currently playing a competent shortstop, there is a stronger likelihood that physical skills might decline and seriously hurt the defensive value of the player, necessitating a move away from the middle infield and destroying the value. </p>
<p>Another likely outcome is the arrival of prospects to the majors who also derive their value from playing those positions.  While organizations like to think they have a pretty accurate timeline when good minor leaguers will hit the majors, it is far from being completely accurate and unexpected and faster arrivals occur.  If a shortstop was ready to be promoted on a team with a mid-tier shortstop, it would be almost impossible to get value from both of these players.  However, for corner outfielders and infielders it is much easier to move players around and get value out of everyone.  </p>
<p>Remember that the expected value is a weighted average of all probabilities of expected returns.  Defensive decline and prospect congestion are both outcomes that hurt non-elite middle infielders more than corner outfielders and infielders, and their value is subsequently hurt.  Those who are paid &#8216;elite&#8217; salaries are those who would still be valuable if moved away from their position, meaning that the aforementioned outcomes are not nearly as hurtful to their value.</p>
<p>Finally, the correlation of .21 just shows me that 21% of wins are explained by the middle infielders, which is more than their share of at bats and defensive contribution.  This would be evidence that they are more important than their individual contributions, but you also have to consider some dependence as teams with great shortstops have frequently addressed a lot of other needs first.  The starting middle infielders probably make up about 20% of offensive opportunities and I&#8217;ll assume a 10% contribution to runs prevented.  This would cause one to expect a 15% r^2 value (.5 * .2 + .5 * .1 ) if the variables were independent.  Since this is not the case, one could say that the wins added are pretty proportional to what you would expect from 2 starting position players.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Saints were the Better Team this Year, so why are the Colts Favored to Win Super Bowl 44? by Super Bowl Aftermath: Don&#8217;t Call it an Upset &#171; LiveBall Sports</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Bowl Aftermath: Don&#8217;t Call it an Upset &#171; LiveBall Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] way the Colts had performed in the playoffs, they deserved to be favored.  But, had the super bowl been played in New Orleans, the spread of five points still suggests the [...]</description>
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