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Roster Roundouts: a New Orleans Saints Camp Preview

August 1, 2009 3 comments

Previous Roster Roundouts: Bills, Rams, Bengals, Chiefs

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I’ll start out by citing a guest entry by Brian Burke at the NY Times Fifth Down NFL Blog.  In writing a defense of Jay Cutler, Burke comes to the conclusion that if you make the assumption that all of the players around Cutler are a league average quality supporting cast, that Cutler was worth 2.1 wins more than an average quarterback last year.

Obviously, you can’t tell the true value of a quarterback by looking only at his net yards produced, his attempts, and his interceptions, and you probably can’t assume an average supporting cast, but a regression like that will get you pretty close.

Knowing that an analysis of the New Orleans Saints begins with their quarterback, Drew Brees, I ran the same variables on Brees to see where he came out.  And using the same methodology, we can estimate Drew Brees’ value at 3.4 wins above an average quarterback in 2008.

Now, the truth of the matter is that Brees’ supporting cast is a little bit above average.  He’s got better receivers than say, Cutler has, his offensive line may not have been better but it was pretty darn good.  Considering the overall health of his unit, he was probably working with more than Peyton Manning was last season.  And so, if you factor in his supporting cast, Brees was probably worth between 2.0-2.5 wins last season above a league average QB such as Kyle Orton or Ben Roethlisberger.

But the larger point is this: Brees enters 2009 as the best quarterback in football.  Peyton Manning might be the NFL’s most valuable player, but at this point in his career, Peyton could not throw the ball 650 times in a season and win as many games as he does.  Brees is so good that the more he throws the better off his team is.

Behind Brees, the New Orleans Saints scored more points than any other team in the NFL.  The defense was not nearly as bad as you think, either.  It was below average: ranked 26th in the league by both points and DVOA, but with a league average offense and special teams, the Saints defense would still have helped the team to a 6-10 record.  An above average offense made the Saints an 8-8 team with a 9.5 win Pythagorean record, but while defensive improvements are on the way, the offense is hardly the best in the NFL.

The distinction is important because the passing game is the No. 1 or No. 2 in the NFL, as it was ranked last year by yards.  But the Saints were a horrific running team last year, fumbled far too much, and the passing game was insufficient in short yardage to pick up for it.  Indeed, the difference between where the greek triangle man sees the Saints, where advanced metrics see them, and where they are seen in terms of point production is simple variance in the grading of the offense.

If you think the Saints had the best offense in football last year, then you also have to say that they were one of it’s ten best teams.  But there’s a legitimate argument to be made that they weren’t even in it’s top five offenses because a below average running game combined with a top notch passing game simply yields a high variance product.

Sure enough, the week by week stats out of Football Outsiders Almanac 2009 show that the Saints offense produced 7 performances where they had a DVOA below 10.0%.  Their variance was right in the middle of the NFL.  Now, the median performance by the Saints is still in the +20′s, but just barely.  Until the NFL chooses to expand it’s playoff system to 8 teams per conference (not happening), having a team with a top-three offensive power ranking throw up 7 or more mediocre or worse performances (5 of these on the road) isn’t going to get you into the playoffs.

Even a small improvement in the running game will take some pressure off of guys like Brees and WR Marques Colston, and it will allow the Saints to be better on a week-in-week out basis.  Specifically, Brees has just creamed bad opponents, and opponents at home, but against a good defense on the road, in adverse conditions, Brees’ performance has mirrored his teammates: disappointing.

Despite that disappointment, Brees is still the best in the game.  He’s just human.  The big question isn’t whether defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will help the Saints defense produce (he will), or how Sean Payton will continue to use Brees, or whether Scott Fujita and Scott Shanle should still be linebackers in the NFL (debatable), it’s how Brees’ supporting cast will respond to playing with him.  Reggie Bush needs to step up.  Jeremy Shockey needs to step up.  Marques Colston needs to step up.  And if any of those guys should falter, players like Heath Evans, Dan Campbell, Billy Miller, and Robert Meachem have to be on board from day one to improve the Saints offense from last year.  There’s little doubt that the Saints offense will once again be above average, but how good it will be will determine how successful the Saints are this season.  The Saints simply have to avoid being highly ranked in turnovers this season, because one thing the Gregg Williams scheme does not do is help turn the turnover battle back in your favor.  Throw interceptions, put the ball on the ground, and you are going to lose ball games.

The Saints probably enter this year as the favorite in the NFC South, a division where there are no top ten type football teams, but are plenty of top 15 types between Carolina, Atlanta, and New Orleans.  They’ll have to be dynamic on offense and improved on defense to win it.

Saints Camp, New Orleans, LA

Lots of camp battles to follow below

Running Back: Lydell Hamilton vs. P.J. Hill vs. Herb Donaldson

No guaranteed roster spot here, but the undrafted Hill drew rave reviews at Wisconsin, and the last Big Ten undrafted runningback they found, Pierre Thomas, worked out pretty nicely.

Wide Receiver: Adrian Arrington vs. Skyler Green vs. Courtney Roby

Up to two of these guys can make the team.  Green vs. Roby is more a battle of who will be the better option to return kicks, but if they were to both outperform Arrington, there’s no reason for the team to stick it out with it’s project WR.  Green’s speed is very marketable in Louisiana, but Sean Payton will not hesitate to go with Arrington and Roby if those are his best options.

Defensive Line: Anthony Hargrove vs. Remi Ayodele

The hybrid 3-4/4-3 that Gregg Williams wants to run probably requires him to be at least two guys deep at the nose tackle position, and that suggests that Hargrove is less valuable to this defense than the young Ayodele is, but Hargrove could play the 3-4 end as well as the 4-3 end, and both of these guys could force a suprise cut, such as Charles Grant.

Outside Linebacker: Anthony Walters vs. Troy Evans

Battle for special teams value.  The Saints drafted Stanley Arnoux to handle this role, but he got hurt in OTA’s and is out for the year.

Inside Linebacker: Mark Simoneau vs. Marvin Mitchell

The role here is a depth/special teams player, and defensive backup to Jonathon Vilma.  My guess is that Mark Simoneau gets the nod for his experience, but Mitchell probably offers more long term value.

Starting Cornerback: Malcolm Jenkins vs. Jabari Greer vs. Randall Gay vs. Tracy Porter

The camp battle of the year across the NFL , no one has any idea who will play corner for the Saints.  Randall Gay could win the No. 1 CB job, or he could get cut.  Jenkins will eventually have it, and the team would love to start him and Greer at the corners and have Porter be the nickel, but both guys will have to earn it.

Cornerback: Jason David vs. Leigh Torrence

Bet Torrence, and bet on Torrence hard.  Just sayin’.

Safety: Pierson Prioleau vs. Osama Young vs. Chris Reis

Prioleau is the Gregg Williams organizational soldier: Buffalo->Washington->Jacksonville->New Orleans, and he’s a pretty decent safety who is slight favorite over Young, the incumbent.  Reis is the longshot with the most upside.

Punter: Glenn Paulak vs. Thomas Morstead

I don’t really handicap punter battles.

Surprise Cuts?

  • RB Mike Bell
  • TE Jeremy Shockey
  • DE Charles Grant
  • CB Randall Gay
  • S Roman Harper

The Poise Fallacy

To pick, harmlessly, on a certain former NFL scout with a significant Twitter following for a sec…

(paraphrased) The no. 1 quality a successful quarterback must have is poise.

When asked how poised is quantified, examples of a Tom Brady type were given.  How nothing could rattle a quarterback with poise, not a pressure situation, not a pass rush, not weather conditions.  A counter-example of Kyle Boller was offered: how a quarterback with a truly major arm could fail so mightily because he was not poised.

The scout is not alone in his assessment.  It’s a wide spread belief that the presence of poise can separate a good prospect from an otherwise poor prospect, and it follows that players who have the skills, and have the poise will succeed at the NFL level.

I don’t want to spend a lot of time dissecting the concept of poise, because it’s a perfectly reasonable term for a sportswriter to use in order to nicely package observations made about a player into a column.  If Kurt Warner brings his team back from a ten point 4th quarter deficit against the Seahawks in Seattle in December, you could probably describe his effort as poised or having poise.  In other words, used properly, poise is tangible.   Though revisionist, Warner’s performance demonstrated poise because the expected outcome in that situation is a loss, but Warner did not succumb to the expected outcome, and good stuff happened to him and his team as a result.  That’s poise.

Something that poise can not be, is intangible.  Notice in the above: poised is a quality of the performance put on by Warner.  A player who is poised is a player who strings enough of these types of performances together as to earn the title.  For example, Tom Brady, by virtue of observation of his performance, has poise.  By the same standard, Kyle Boller, does not have poise.

It absoultely does not follow, not from any sort of logical structure or any type of deductive reasoning, that poise is an inherent quality.  It is not an intangible in the sense that some prospects at the quarterback position are poised and others are not.  This is a ridiculous assertion, and yet, when we break down a statement such as, “the number one quality for a quarterback to have is poise” (emphasis added), this is exactly the assertion being made.  It’s Brady achieving what he had because he was poised, and Boller failing to do so because he lacked it.

It’s not being denied that there are other qualities that determine a good quarterback from a bad one, but we can still say with absolute certainty that poise did not separate Tom Brady from Kyle Boller.  Trust me, there are plenty of completely measurable and observable evidences to choose one of these quarterbacks over the other.  Poise, in the inherently possessed use of the term, is not even on the list no matter how far you look down it.

One step further: if finding poise was an actual scouting law, no matter how difficult, there would be NFL flops and busts who unquestionably demonstrated poise in the pocket.  There wouldn’t be all that many of them, and they would certainly be the exception, but it’s the exception that proves the rule.  The evidence would say: there’s a strong correlation between those that demonstrate poise, and those who produce at the next level.  But the evidence does not say that.  It says that every player who has been deemed to have poise at the end of their career did so because they succeeded at some point.  Does that sound like a fair analysis to you?

We say good quarterbacks are poised…because they are good quarterbacks.  Not the other way around.  Frankly, to make this fallacy is inexcusable given a related line of work.

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Roster Roundouts: A Kansas City Chiefs Camp Preview

Previous Roster Roundouts: Bills, Rams, Bengals

If nothing else, at least the Kansas City Chiefs are taking themselves seriously this year.

With a Raider-esque six wins in the two years, that’s actually somewhat of an accomplishment. However, fueled by an offseason in which they acquired a potential franchise quarterback, Matt Cassel, used the draft to help out their sorry defense, and are expecting big things from a third-year receiver, Dwayne Bowe, fans finally feel like they aren’t relegated to last place again this year. And in the AFC West, if you aren’t relegated to last, then you have a shot at first. Thank parity: it may not exist east of the Mississippi, but teams like the Chiefs, Seahawks, and Cards always have a shot.

Only three teams had a worse point differential than the Chiefs in 2008: the Bengals, the Rams, and the Lions, so any sort of improvement would have to start there. On Wednesday, a breakdown of the Bengals’ performances found that their season statistics were weighed down by epically bad performances, which is to say that the average Bengals performance was one of the worst in the NFL, but the median performance by the Bengals was of an average football team. Since most statistics, standard and advanced, are presented as either raw numbers, or mean averages, a team like the Bengals can be underprojected by a statistical system that overvalues the average.

The Chiefs certainly had their share of acceptable performances last season, at least against the Chargers, but even using measures of median performance, we can’t say the Chiefs were an average team last year. The terrible performances outnumber the bad which outnumber the average and above average.

The numbers do suggest that the Chiefs found a somewhat sustainable offense in the second half of the season. To throw out just one measure: they posted a 7.5% Weighted Offensive DVOA last year, which considers only performance in the second half of the season. That’s a middle of the pack offense.

Matt Cassel enters a situation where he is given an emerging No. 1 receiver in Dwayne Bowe, a potentially effective running back timeshare between Jamaal Charles and former superstar Larry Johnson (Johnson would carry the load in December if the Chiefs are still playing meaningful football), a pretty solid TE prospect in Brad Cottam, and a first down machine in vet WR Bobby Engram. For me to say that this offense has a shot at being above average would mean to ignore 1) the current state of the offensive line (they’ll block, but are incredibly thin and even one injury could hamper the entire offense), and 2) the fact that when you take Tony Gonzalez out of the offense, you lose the best middle of the field target that professional football has ever seen.

Cottam may very well develop his own set of strengths to help the Chiefs, but Gonzalez is an irreplaceable loss. With that said, a 2nd round pick is a nice haul for two or three years at the end of a hall of fame career. It just, however, seems to clash with all of the Chiefs’ other moves this offseason which suggested at a return to offensive levels from 2003-2005 were imminent.

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The reason the Chiefs might end up looking up at the rest of a weak division anyway is on the defensive end. Hey, the draft helped the long term aspirations of this unit. It added some future cornerstones in Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee, and the team can hope on development from it’s young secondary…but the rest is just hope. No team since the NFL started keeping track of quarterback sacks were as inept at pass rush as the Chiefs were last season, and Jackson/Magee do little to change that except to put some more athleticism up front for offenses to pick up.

It’s not that the Chiefs won’t have a better pass rush this year, they almost certainly have to, but if they were to add 0.5 sacks/game to last year’s grand total of 10, they’d still be one of the worst pass rushing teams in NFL history. The same improvement would move your run of the mill “lacking a pass rush” team into the middle of the pack, and a middle of the pack pass rushing team into the top five. For the Chiefs, a sizable improvement in the direction of the mean simply makes them less embarrassing** in that aspect.

**I mean, just how good is Jared Allen? He leaves a team that becomes the worst pass rushing team ever, joins a team with no pass defense to speak of, and they become a top five defense overnight. I’m starting to think that a price tag of a 1st and a 3rd (a franchise changing type haul) was too low for Allen.

As far as that young secondary goes, team’s better start stretching the field on CB Brandon Flowers. According to charting data from Football Outsiders, the average pass thrown at Flowers traveled only 9.0 yards…and he simply shut that stuff down. He’s a physical corner, and while you can credit Gunther Cunningham for playing to his strengths last year, new coordinator Clancy Pendergast will probably have to deal with some regression on his side of the field if he starts getting beat deep. On the other side, Brandon Carr has some time to develop, but if the Chiefs don’t find a source of pass rush, he’s an easy target for quarterbacks. Adding veteran Mike Brown at free safety should help disproportionately.

Ultimately, the biggest problem is that when you compare the Chiefs to other double-digit loss AFC teams from last season: the Jaguars, the Browns, the Bengals, and the Raiders, the Chiefs are just behind all of them in terms of where the team is in the scale of rebuilding. They spent two seasons spinning their wheels and going nowhere, so this team might very well see some true, legitimate improvement on both sides of the ball…and still end up with the first overall pick next April.

Chiefs Camp: River Falls, WI

The Chief’s camp battles are not all that important relative to the near term or long term future, but given it’s the first year of Todd Haley’s head coaching career, it will be intriguing to see which way he goes on his role players: older or younger.

Wide Receiver: Devard Darling vs. Jeff Webb vs. Terrence Copper

Copper, the veteran signing, is the best of the bunch, and Webb is the likely cut of the three, but special teams value is always a primary consideration with back-of-roster receivers.

Tight End: Sean Ryan vs. Tom Crabtree vs. Jake O’Connell

Ryan is the veteran and is likely to win a job, but Crabtree and O’Connell are both undrafted TEs from the same school, Miami University (of Ohio).  That made this worth mentioning.

Center: Eric Ghiaciuc vs. Rudy Niswanger

Both players are virtually guaranteed a spot on the roster, and this battle is simply the Chiefs’ own incumbent underwhelming Center vs. the Bengals’ castoff underwhelming Center.

DE/OLB: Demorrio Williams vs. Tamba Hali

This is a scheme battle, essentially.  The Clancy Pendergast scheme is a hybrid 3-4/4-3.  Hali is going to be the point man in the 4-3 version, providing most of the pass rush, but if he proves versatile, he might also play well in the Chike Okefor LB role from last season.  Williams is just trying to hold on to some role in the new defense.

Linebacker: Monty Beisel vs. Corey Mays

Mays went undrafted out of Notre Dame in 2006, and has bounced around the league for a few years.  This is really it for him, he needs to catch on right now.  He’ll have to beat out the veteran, Beisel, to win a spot on the team.

Defensive Back: Ricardo Colcolugh vs. Jon McGraw

Colcolugh is a corner with a lot of special teams value, McGraw was the backup strong safety last season, and has a lot of special teams value.  With Mike Brown coming over from Chicago, McGraw’s role in the defense is basically abolished, so let the best special teams player win.

Kicker: Connor Barth vs. Ryan Succop

A kicker battle?  Yep.  Barth was below average as a rookie last year, but he’s the favorite in this race because the transition from college kicker to NFL kicker rarely goes over well, so the odds are stacked heavily against Mr. Irrelivant, Succop.

Surprise cuts?

  • RB Larry Johnson
  • DE Alfonso Boone
  • CB Brandon Carr
  • CB Maurice Legett
  • S Mike Brown
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